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5 points by shader 165 days ago | link | parent

My first thought is a package system based on melpa / use-package from emacs. Please point out if something like this has already been done and I have just forgotten it.

Basically, just a simple index and package fetching system that pulls libraries directly from github or other vcs sources. Then we only need one file in the standard library "package.arc", that provides functions for querying the index and fetching packages from github into a ~/.arc directory, supported by a macro like use-package from emacs (https://github.com/jwiegley/use-package) or 'ns from clojure.

An important point here is that a package fetching utility can be independent of any module system. Which is good, because we don't really have that yet. The emacs community doesn't seem to think one is necessary; everything is just imported into the global namespace, and prefixed with the package name if necessary to keep it separate. Maybe we could make some macros to simplify the prefix process, but that could quickly get complicated.

We could also experiment with some avant garde packaging ideas, such as akkartik's thoughts on avoiding version pinning, searching the vcs sources directly for the package, or building the community CI tools that automatically find downstream dependencies and run their tests against your lib changes.



3 points by zck 162 days ago | link

> My first thought is a package system based on melpa / use-package from emacs.

That would be great! Use-package is amazing, and that (combined with similar loading things from package.el) could make loading dependencies way easier. I know that when I'm writing arc code, I'm reluctant to use libraries -- even libraries included with arc -- because they're (afaik) impossible to automatically load.

> We could also experiment with some avant garde packaging ideas, such as akkartik's thoughts on avoiding version pinning...

Amusingly, the Emacs ecosystem can be thought of as a package manager that avoids version pinning; the standard package repositories (GNU Elpa, Melpa) only keep the latest version of a package around; you can't install older versions.

Of course, I know of no package foo.el that introduced _foo2.el_ when breaking backwards compatibility. So we can maybe do better that way.

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3 points by shader 165 days ago | link

I'd be willing to donate some hosting for an initial version of the package index, if we decide we need one. I have a vultr instance I'm not using for much at the moment.

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