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7 points by NickSmith 6137 days ago | link | parent

Paul, in emphasising code brevity I think you are missing a greater good. I believe most of us subconsciously look for a language that is frictionless -- one that allows us to express our ideas without the language getting in the way. To me this is a far more appropriate measure of a language's power than the length of a program. I'd love a language that would allow me to stay in flow* and express my creativity without having to stop and think about the actual language itself. That would be the ultimate Zen power tool.

To be more specific here are three attributes that seem to aid frictionless flow. (perhaps in order of importance) -

--> Expressiveness -- i.e. simple, explicit and unambiguous abstractions.

--> Obviousness and readability. -- i.e. no need to decipher tokens, and the code structure illuminates the intention and flow of the process.

--> Terse. -- i.e. apart from the obvious benefit of requiring less work it also helps me 'keep the whole program in my head'.

There's nothing wrong with brevity of course, but when pursued for it's own sake it seems to be counter productive, in that when you focus on terseness alone there can be a tendency to ride roughshod over the more important attributes: expressiveness and obviousness. You then end up with code that's not as enjoyable to create and whose beauty is lost, except perhaps initially to it's creator.

BTW Paul, this is a great first shot, so a big thank you. I, for one, am routing for Arc to be a widespread success, if only so I can do most of what I need to do in a language that I really enjoy.

* On Flow -> http://www.life2point0.com/2006/06/the_little_book.html