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Sorry for misunderstanding! My heretic idea is that given the arc goals we should not improve scheme or lisp but instead improve python given the evidence in benchmarks!

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4 points by nostrademons 6128 days ago | link

Well, as a Python programmer, I'd be all for that...

However, I don't think that's really Arc's goals, which I think were foremost to create a language that PG would like to program in. If he wanted to program in Python, he would. Also, the existing Arc community seems largely drawn from disenchanted Lispers who really like the syntax and macros of Lisp, but don't want to deal with onions in the existing languages.

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1 point by shiro 6126 days ago | link

If you use succinctness as the only metric, I wonder how well J performs.

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In this particular case libraries don't matter much as the tasks in benchmarks are mostly algorithmical, e.g. like finding spectral norm of matrix, summing numbers or solving n-body problem. Maybe for development of language it would be great if somebody could write some benchmarks to test arc brevity.

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